Kayak Fishfinder - GPS - Sounder Recommendations

[Gavmania]

Striker plus has quickdraw contour mapping. Makes your own chart . All too techo for my low brow knuckle dragging intellect.

Yup this looks great - got to see a garmin up close and personal - Anzac day - I was blessed to be asked out on a friends smartwave - and he had a garmin striker 5 I think - really clear and the easy 'mark' button with waypoints to show where you've been is just what I think I'll use.

Thanks Dedant this is up the top of the list for me.

Great to actually see one working and the features explained while on the water.

soooo much better than sifting through youtube.....

[Schiskafish]

Garmin striker 4Plus. Doesn't have maps but you can scan your own maps with their unique live mapping technology giving you contour lines, waypoints, fish spots etc. Great unit for $299. Plus uses CHIRP technology

N.B Make sure it's the 'plus' model. Go to Burnsco

[Gavmania]

Garmin striker 4Plus. Doesn't have maps but you can scan your own maps with their unique live mapping technology giving you contour lines, waypoints, fish spots etc. Great unit for $299. Plus uses CHIRP technology

N.B Make sure it's the 'plus' model. Go to Burnsco

ahhh thanks that might be the ticket for a cheaper entry. ta muchly

[Slugyak]

Keep an eye on Marine Deals as just got the 4cv with Chirp for a good price just got to find enough GOOD days to learn how to use it lol

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[Marc N]

Garmin striker 4Plus. Doesn't have maps but you can scan your own maps with their unique live mapping technology giving you contour lines, waypoints, fish spots etc. Great unit for $299. Plus uses CHIRP technology

N.B Make sure it's the 'plus' model. Go to Burnsco

When you say, scan your own maps, do you mean, you can get some on a computer and download them to the 4Plus? or is it, just showing you where you've been?

Belay that: I've just checked and the interaction is done with ActiveCaptain and WIFI, WIFI only comes on Striker 7 cv and 9cv.

So anyone car to hazard and opinion on the best - between a Garmin Striker 4 Plus and a Lowrance HOOK2 4x Fishfinder/GPS Tracker ??

[Marc N]

Rabbit hole this is - as I emerge, blinking into the light, after a night's internet research -

It would seem that, but for some good basic fish finding and very simple waypoint logging, +/- a few frills, fishfinders don't get interesting, until the price rises to about $400 and then, to get the "Good" stuff, like actual chart plotting and 3 different ways of looking at the fish, one needs to spend considerably more.

The following is just my humble opinion: Lowrance HOOK2 4x GPS - vs - Garmin STRIKER Plus 4 GPS

They both appear similar in function, the Garmin would have the edge on the quality feature set, but it's tiny. The Lowrance is to be bigger and easier to use.

Any one care to wade in and comment?

[Marc N]

So after another burst of high intensity research - I've fallen for the Garmin Striker 5cv Plus - it'll be a Christmas present.

Whilst I was watching all the youtubery, i found some thing interesting, none of the folk know what kHz means.

Hang you head in shame, if you don't know the abbreviation, for Kilohertz.

[Marc N]

And now the budget expands - Garmin STRIKER Plus 7sv is looking like it's the one.

I post my thinking below, in the hope that it may help others considering the costs and benefits.

In the Garmin 7sv, you get - traditional sonar , "down and side" scan hi res, also you can make your own maps, of where you are and have been, plus gps waypoints and tracks and can WIFI these to your smart phone and then to the ActiveCaptain free community, to transfer waypoints n tracks back and forth. About $800 depending on where you buy.

The Lowrance Hook2 7" Tripleshot (with charts) - does the same but no WIFI, so microSD card and buggering around with all that, to transfer waypoints with what? - no ActiveCaptain. But it does come with Aus/NZ charts, and is about $200 more.

I want to be able to mark fishing spots and see what's down there.

I'm in a Kayak, I don't need to set out from Birkenhead and see all the reefs between Auckland and Paihia. The charts that are provided in the Lowrance, will necessarily be old, like a year or two.

The Garmin will show me what's there now - and with sidescan (bend mind, to understand how to read that) you can see all sorts of close to near, almost photographic stuff.

My process could be, use aqua maps on the phone when at home to look at charts and make waypoints for where I think the interesting bits are - WIFI them to the Garmin - head out in the Kayak and use the unit's capabilities to expand on the Waypoints. I don't need charts to navigate like a Gin Palace does.

[twobarefeet]

I had been going through the same process, I had my eyes on the Striker 4, managed to convince myself to spend the extra on 5 buuuuuuuuuttttttt now the 7 is looking the goer. Mainly for the wifi to my phone etc (gadget geek).

I have also looked at the slightly cheaper Striker 7cv (I'm not sure how much use sidescan will be to me at this stage, but weighing up if the extra $100 is worth it or not.

Main concern is having a 7inch finder on a kayak and the setup/mounting options? Would be keen to hear how you are going to mount it or if anyone else has a 7inch mounted on a Ultra 4.3 or similar, keen to see some photos etc.

Thanks

[Marc N]

I had been going through the same process, I had my eyes on the Striker 4, managed to convince myself to spend the extra on 5 buuuuuuuuuttttttt now the 7 is looking the goer. Mainly for the wifi to my phone etc (gadget geek).

Yes I'm a geek too, I've discovered that Garmin Active Captain website (GACWeb) and Garmin Active Captain App (GACApp) and the 7sv are quite interoperational, but with codicils.
As for the Quick Draw tracks, they sync up and down for 7sv<> GACApp<> GACWeb - Okey Dokey
As for GPS points and routes, I'm told that most can go down hill to the device, GACWeb>GACApp>7sv . But Garmin support, reckons you can't send GPS points and routes uphill to the GACWeb. mmmm

I have also looked at the slightly cheaper Striker 7cv (I'm not sure how much use sidescan will be to me at this stage, but weighing up if the extra $100 is worth it or not.

I though that also, but then I realised how to read the side scan. So if I understand, all of what we see on the FFinder is past history, so we've got to turn around and go back to the fish, unless we are moving up current when the bait/lure will drift back to the fish. So the side scan means that I can be less precise about going back, as it gives a much wider area to go back to...

Main concern is having a 7inch finder on a kayak and the setup/mounting options? Would be keen to hear how you are going to mount it or if anyone else has a 7inch mounted on a Ultra 4.3 or similar, keen to see some photos etc.

Here's a photo of my Hummingbird in the 'yak, the wires go into the tackle box and the battery is in there and there's a transducer scupper in there too. with the transducer mounted in it, into a recess on the bottom of the 'yak.

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So c/o photoshop I've worked out that I can fit the 7sv in the same spot.

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Humminbird 19cm wide Garmin 7sv 24cm wide

[SitDown]

So if I understand, all of what we see on the FFinder is past history, so we've got to turn around and go back to the fish, unless we are moving up current when the bait/lure will drift back to the fish

its easy to stop your kayak when you see sign while going over it, usually the school you see will have a few slackers not keeping up with the bunch, drop your slider down straight away once stopped, usually you will be rewarded.
Takes a bit of practice & organization of rod placement on your yak, but its easily doable....

[AndrewRawlingson]

Hopefully the sign is big enough that you will still be over it when you come to a stop. As SitDown says, drop a slider down and boom! You're away (most of the time). Fish finders and vertical lure fishing techniques make fishing too easy

[Marc N]

Thanks Gents, coming from a traditional 'sit a squid bait on the bottom and wait', background, the tips you've offered will be very valuable

[Marc N]

And then at about double the price of the Striker Plus 7sv there's the Garmin echoMAP Chirp 75SV - which as far as I can see, is the same as the Striker Plus 7sv, but with navigation charts.

I think if I had a boat that would go 20 km in a day, I'd get the echoMAp version, but for Kayaking, $600 ~ $700 extra just for charts is excessive in my book.

Used to be, when I had a handheld Garmin, for terrestrial GPS travelling in South East Asia, you could get maps n stuff, off the web and bung 'em in yer device, these days, it looks like the big companies, have bought up all the data and are reselling it to you and me for $600~$700 a pop... good work if you can get it.

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