NEW KAYAK FISHING STORE IN NZ

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Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:47 pm

HI, I'M ACTUALLY A OWNER A FISHING KAYAK STORE IN MY COUNTRY , JUST FOR KAYAK ENTHUSIASTIC, IM PLANING TO MOVE TO NZ WITH MY FAMILY AND I WONDERING IS GOOD IDEA OPEN YHE SAME STORE THERE, MY STORE IN ONLY DEDICATED TO FISHER ON KAYAK, RODS, BAITS, KAYAKS SELL AND RENTAL, AND ALL KIND OF STUFF, IF SOME IN THE FORUN CAN GIVE IDEAS WHAT BEST PLACE, IS ENOGH MARKET THERE? ETC ETC

VERY THANK FOR YOUR HELP.. SEE YOU SOON

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Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:43 pm

MAXGARCIA wrote:HI, I'M ACTUALLY A OWNER A FISHING KAYAK STORE IN MY COUNTRY , JUST FOR KAYAK ENTHUSIASTIC, IM PLANING TO MOVE TO NZ WITH MY FAMILY AND I WONDERING IS GOOD IDEA OPEN YHE SAME STORE THERE, MY STORE IN ONLY DEDICATED TO FISHER ON KAYAK, RODS, BAITS, KAYAKS SELL AND RENTAL, AND ALL KIND OF STUFF, IF SOME IN THE FORUN CAN GIVE IDEAS WHAT BEST PLACE, IS ENOGH MARKET THERE? ETC ETC

VERY THANK FOR YOUR HELP.. SEE YOU SOON
Where are you from? NZ is a small market with 4-5M ppl spread across north and south island. Not sure if its sustainable to open a dedicated kayak fishing shop although I would love to have more option in the market




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Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:21 am

MAXGARCIA wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:47 pm
HI, I'M ACTUALLY A OWNER A FISHING KAYAK STORE IN MY COUNTRY , JUST FOR KAYAK ENTHUSIASTIC, IM PLANING TO MOVE TO NZ WITH MY FAMILY AND I WONDERING IS GOOD IDEA OPEN YHE SAME STORE THERE, MY STORE IN ONLY DEDICATED TO FISHER ON KAYAK, RODS, BAITS, KAYAKS SELL AND RENTAL, AND ALL KIND OF STUFF, IF SOME IN THE FORUN CAN GIVE IDEAS WHAT BEST PLACE, IS ENOGH MARKET THERE? ETC ETC

VERY THANK FOR YOUR HELP.. SEE YOU SOON
There is already a Hobie retailer/agent in NZ - http://www.nzwatershed.co.nz/

The best place (most population) would be to base it in Auckland.
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Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:58 pm

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Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:21 am
There is already a Hobie retailer/agent in NZ - http://www.nzwatershed.co.nz/

The best place (most population) would be to base it in Auckland.
Sorry Mental, I'm quite surprised by those answers of yours. Firstly, Rob's store, Kayak Adventures sounds much more like what MAXGARCIA has in mind than Watershed.

I'm not sure that Auckland would be the best place. It has the highest population for sure, but there are tackle shops, boat shops and the likes around every corner here - Burnsco being one example of a store offering both kayaks and loads of tackle. And the price of property in Auckland is way out of proportion to the remaining market in this area (just my opinion).

Personally I would be more inclined to look at other smaller towns and see whether there'd be enough of a market to do what Rob and Janet have been doing for so many years. Max, just keep in mind that Rob Fort (the owner of Kayak Adventures) is a household name in NZ Kayak fishing and I think his success is based a lot more on reputation than just finding a cosey little town like the Coromandel.

And as nobody else has said it yet, be careful of writing everything in CAPITAL LETTERS. It's considered as shouting and you'll probably get more responses if you don't shout :)
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Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:27 pm

FatherOfMany wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:58 pm
Mental wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:21 am
There is already a Hobie retailer/agent in NZ - http://www.nzwatershed.co.nz/

The best place (most population) would be to base it in Auckland.
Sorry Mental, I'm quite surprised by those answers of yours. Firstly, Rob's store, Kayak Adventures sounds much more like what MAXGARCIA has in mind than Watershed.

I'm not sure that Auckland would be the best place. It has the highest population for sure, but there are tackle shops, boat shops and the likes around every corner here - Burnsco being one example of a store offering both kayaks and loads of tackle. And the price of property in Auckland is way out of proportion to the remaining market in this area (just my opinion).

Personally I would be more inclined to look at other smaller towns and see whether there'd be enough of a market to do what Rob and Janet have been doing for so many years. Max, just keep in mind that Rob Fort (the owner of Kayak Adventures) is a household name in NZ Kayak fishing and I think his success is based a lot more on reputation than just finding a cosey little town like the Coromandel.

And as nobody else has said it yet, be careful of writing everything in CAPITAL LETTERS. It's considered as shouting and you'll probably get more responses if you don't shout :)
Funny you say that FOM. I was shouting when I read that post.
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Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:57 pm

Sorry FoMI think you took my post the wrong way, I was just pointing out as he paddles/peddles a Hobie that NZ already has a Hobie dealer nothing to do with the current retailer/store itself...

And having worked in the kayak retail industry for more than a few years now I can tell you that kayaks are predominately sold in volume in Auckland, this is borne from the crazy freight costs we pay in NZ to ship kayaks around the country so to avoid those costs put your kayaks where the people are... and yes I agree the high Auckland costs do put the pressure on starting any business here..!

I have been down the path of opening a "kayak fishing store" here in Auckland and got very very close to pulling the trigger but the store and location I wanted got snapped up by an overseas investor and the existing store demo'ed and on it was built a childcare centre... The population in NZ is, as you pointed out, small at best and a kayak fishing shop would only ever survive as a business in Auckland is if it appealed to the wider fishing community and included stock standard bait and tackle sales alongside the core kayak fishing business.

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FatherOfMany wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:58 pm
Sorry Mental, I'm quite surprised by those answers of yours. Firstly, Rob's store, Kayak Adventures sounds much more like what MAXGARCIA has in mind than Watershed.

I'm not sure that Auckland would be the best place. It has the highest population for sure, but there are tackle shops, boat shops and the likes around every corner here - Burnsco being one example of a store offering both kayaks and loads of tackle. And the price of property in Auckland is way out of proportion to the remaining market in this area (just my opinion).
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Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:20 pm

MAXGARCIA wrote:
Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:47 pm
HI, I'M ACTUALLY A OWNER A FISHING KAYAK STORE IN MY COUNTRY
Post a link to your website please

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Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:39 pm

my 10 cents

Reading all that's gone before -

yes Auckland is the place if only for the big numbers.

But I would suggest that unless there is a stunning reason, to go to a Kayak one stop shop, that it would be difficult in Auckland.

For example, I can go to Barry's Point Rd and buy a Kayak in one shop, walk a few metres, to a very good fishing and tackle shop. Over the road to get a Harley Davidson and I think there's a Dive shop and a Surf shop and a Standup Paddle Board shop and god knows what else I've forgotten about in that short stretch of road.

For me I can get all I need in one small area.

As mentioned in previous posts, there's a good living to be made in small town NZ. I have no suggestions as to where, I would think that a lot of research be entertained and don't neglect the tourist market. Maybe the Caitlins area south of Dunedin (dodgy in winter) or up North somewhere, research.

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Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:50 am

thanks all for your help, i kwon is small market but i think that is a market that will rise in the time, i,m hobie dealer here maybe in nz i can keep the dealer or trade with the actually , i kwon there are many trackle store there but i was thinking just the fishing kayaks, a lot of brands of kayak, accessories etc etc , maybe rental for tourist , maybe buy a small boat to take tax kayak for the best fishing point etc, i don want to became rich on this i just want to earn just the necessary to support my family, please if you see any specific town , tell me to check it out, really thanks

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Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:28 am

MAXGARCIA wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:50 am
thanks all for your help, i kwon is small market but i think that is a market that will rise in the time, i,m hobie dealer here maybe in nz i can keep the dealer or trade with the actually , i kwon there are many trackle store there but i was thinking just the fishing kayaks, a lot of brands of kayak, accessories etc etc , maybe rental for tourist , maybe buy a small boat to take tax kayak for the best fishing point etc, i don want to became rich on this i just want to earn just the necessary to support my family, please if you see any specific town , tell me to check it out, really thanks
Another option is to buy an existing Canoe & Kayak franchise/store... https://www.canoeandkayak.co.nz/about-us/
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