Viking or Ocean Kayak?

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DocProfit
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Kayak Model: Reload
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:22 pm

So I'm looking to upgrade my 'old' yak.

I've been kayak fishing for about 6 months now and I'm ready to get a little bit serious. ;)

I keep flip flopping between a reload/440 or a Prowler 4.3/4.7.

It seems they are all good yaks and I'm sure lots of people have great things to say about them.

What I'm looking for are the NEGATIVES.

If you own one of these what would you change? What annoys you the most about the design?


Cheers :beer:

lespresso
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:48 pm

as a suggestion these kind of questions on forums usually spark tribal warfare and logical reasoning is the first casualty

would you be willing to outline how/where you intend to fish with your kayak and in return i think people will be a lot more willing to offer guidance, not so much on brand A vs brand B, but on product A or product B because it has features 1/2/3 that will best meet your needs, hopefully products that they have owned

for example;

- is it primarily the waitamata harbour with non-surf launching, or is it surf launching, or is it rivers, or lakes?
- do you want to troll lures?
- do you want to dive off it?
- do you want to live bait?
- do you want to stand up and sight cast for trout/similar?
- do you only want to softbait?
- do you only want to bait & burley?
- how many rods do you want to run?
- do you intend to fish within a Km or two of your launch site, or do you want to head 10Km plus offshore?
- are you wheeling it to the beach, putting it on a roof rack, or getting a trailer?
- will you primarily be using it on your own (if you usually go with someone i dont think weight matters too much)
- do you want to go camping with it?
- how heavy are you, approx? (this is important i think)
- do you want to do a little of everything? (a bit of a cop out as the more focused your needs the easier it is to provide good advice)
- etc...

best

reiss.
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:11 pm

That's the best post of the year so far Reiss

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Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:45 pm

lespresso wrote:as a suggestion these kind of questions on forums usually spark tribal warfare and logical reasoning is the first casualty

would you be willing to outline how/where you intend to fish with your kayak and in return i think people will be a lot more willing to offer guidance, not so much on brand A vs brand B, but on product A or product B because it has features 1/2/3 that will best meet your needs, hopefully products that they have owned

for example;

- is it primarily the waitamata harbour with non-surf launching, or is it surf launching, or is it rivers, or lakes?
- do you want to troll lures?
- do you want to dive off it?
- do you want to live bait?
- do you want to stand up and sight cast for trout/similar?
- do you only want to softbait?
- do you only want to bait & burley?
- how many rods do you want to run?
- do you intend to fish within a Km or two of your launch site, or do you want to head 10Km plus offshore?
- are you wheeling it to the beach, putting it on a roof rack, or getting a trailer?
- will you primarily be using it on your own (if you usually go with someone i dont think weight matters too much)
- do you want to go camping with it?
- how heavy are you, approx? (this is important i think)
- do you want to do a little of everything? (a bit of a cop out as the more focused your needs the easier it is to provide good advice)
- etc...

best

reiss.
I want to do all of that, so which one is best ? :|

DocProfit
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:53 pm

- Primarily the waitamata/manukau harbour with non-surf launching.
- I want to troll lures.
- No diving
- Softbaits/lures only, don't normally burley.
- Don't stand up, though giving the bum a break would be nice.
- 2-3 rods.
- Normally fish within 2-4 km of launch site.
- Using a roof rack on work ute.
- I fish alone, not that worried about weight, have c-tug.
- I would like to do some overnight/weekend camping with it in the future.
- I'm 6 foot, 84kg.
- Although this is for fishing, I do just like paddling around the headlands, and as noted, camping at some stage.

Hope that helps :)

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Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:55 pm

Definitely Ocean then... :lol:
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kea999
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:22 pm

heres my 2 cents , I found a 4.3 uncomfortable have a 4.5 which is better but youll need to make a box for tackle storage ,haven't tried a Viking but think a reloads were id be looking , storage , rod holders , comfort , comes down to money as well see if you can try before you buy

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BFIST
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:53 pm

What I wish I had for my Ocean Kayak is the Viking tackle pod.

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GHOST RIDER
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:24 pm

Had the 4.3 4.7 pf400 now the reload why the reload well I can carry more food :D
Profish RELOAD
KARMA as i fish out of a kayak i don't eat shark

Fisho91
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Kayak Model: Profiseh 400
Location: Hawkes Bay

Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:53 pm

I have a reload and a 400. Both great with awsome support from Viking
Reload would be my choice if you have the spare coin
Great storage and tackle pod is awsome.
In saying that i have never tried anything else really but i have friends with other brands and they struggle to keep up with me just cruising


Drougan
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:18 pm

I have a Reload, no negatives to report.:)

for fishing on your own the benefit is the removable tacklepod and chillpod (if you use one) to lighten the kayak for lifting onto the car.

It does everything else you are looking for.
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TouringNevada
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:47 pm

I have got a reload and i can tell you nothing can top the tackle box. Saves you a lot of time loading and unloading and its local. made in NZ. Ocean Kayak are not based in NZ anymore.


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Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:49 pm

TouringNevada wrote:I have got a reload and i can tell you nothing can top the tackle box. Saves you a lot of time loading and unloading and its local. made in NZ. Ocean Kayak are not based in NZ anymore.


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G1
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Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:41 pm

Had a Viking 440...loved it, recently purchased a 4.7 prowler which I am happy with, only negative so far is the flex in the hull, it is no where near as rigid as the 440. Every wave you hit with the 4.7 makes it shudder through the hull....it pisses me off!!

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Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:07 pm

G1 wrote:Had a Viking 440...loved it, recently purchased a 4.7 prowler which I am happy with, only negative so far is the flex in the hull, it is no where near as rigid as the 440. Every wave you hit with the 4.7 makes it shudder through the hull....it pisses me off!!

Can you spell out the sound it makes :) so we understand better

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Donk
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Location: Lautoka Fiji

Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:12 am

Personal preference

I have paddled a Ultra 4.7 since they were released. I have done some miles in that boat and have yet find something that for me is a better mix of capicity, stability, speed and features. Having said I carry a bit of weight

I have tried the 4.3 but found it felt a little small after the 4.7 with the missing live well.

I have test paddled a Viking Reload and found it is more like a 4.3 than a 4.7. I get the idea the tackle pod is a big draw card for a lot of people.

See if you can do an extended test paddle in each boat.

DocProfit
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:55 am

Anyone had a paddle in the new 2017 tridents?

lespresso
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:57 am

that is this afternoon's job. i'll let you know.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:02 am

Heres a few thoughts /observations that I made abt 18 month ago..

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The other option is of course the Phoenix Hornet....
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DocProfit
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:51 pm

The more I think about it, the more I think a Profish 400 would be ideal.

I don't go out too far, and luv exploring close in to headlands etc, so something a bit smaller and more maneuverable could be the answer.

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