Advice on PFD's

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Polwarth
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Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:53 am

Good morning all, I am new to this kayaking business and while I wait for the kayak to arrive I am getting some gear together.

What are you guys wearing in the way of PFD's? I was thinking of a inflatable, but watching some videos last night on this forum I see everyone has a "Jacket" type on.

I like the idea of pockets on the front for stuff and I expect that is going to be important for keeping organised. But the ease of movement would be great with a inflatable.

Cheers in advance.

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Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:58 am

Inflatables (once inflated) are likely to make it difficult to get back into the yak in a capsize.

Pockets are good for VHF, EPIRB etc

Rings are good to attach fishing pliers or similar
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Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:20 pm

Nope don't do inflatable. I wear one on good days in the Predator XL but certainly wouldn't recommend them for a normal kayak. As said above, once inflated they have to be deflated to re enter the kayak (which is a mission in itself) the chances then you are left without a PFD if anything else happens... Not a good look

I have a few deals going at the moment but it will depend on your sizing as to if there appropriate as it's limited stock.

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Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:40 pm

I would so do your research mate, I have bought a "popular" PFD before based on quite a few recommendations from other yakkers, and turned out to be very average indeed and I would not go down that path again, get yourself a budget in mind and get the best deal you can with that...
Cant comment on the ones Mike have a deal on at the moment, never used one...
Look at the sewing/seams on them, water bladder or not, if using a highback seat in the yak a low back PFD could annoy you, I do have a PFD that can accommodate a bladder but doesnt bother me, other find it annoying.
Tether and attachment points, both inside and outside pockets,are these breakaway designed ? do they have velco or zips for pockets,some have pockets for a VHF, shoulder and side adjustments and how many they have, can the straps be tucked away or have built in sleeves to side the excess away,neroprene waist to stop it riding up? and the list goes on...
But like already has been said, inflatable nah :n: GL in your hunt :y:

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Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:07 pm

And don't be lured into huge pockets - Once crammed with all the stuff you 'thought' you needed, it can make getting back on board awkward.
There's a lot of flavours out there these days and what looks sharp and feels good in the shop can end up giving you armpits of fire.

Head to a yak dealer, and they will advise based on your application and body type.

Entry level, I'd be budgeting $150-$200 for a decent (as in quality and fit for purpose) bit of kit.
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Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:54 pm

I'd recommend the below pfd, had mine for years now and still in good nick. :y:

http://www.hutchwilco.co.nz/page/54214/ ... oupid=5323" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/KZLJ ... -life-vest" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:17 am

^^ Thick high backed, seat will interfere ?
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:54 am

Good advice that. I try and make sure anything attached to my PFD is buoyant and essential.

Currently VHF, PLB and strobe light all float.

Cell phone, asthma inhaler and knife don't, but I want them on me.

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Hairy Little Dwarf wrote:And don't be lured into huge pockets - Once crammed with all the stuff you 'thought' you needed, it can make getting back on board awkward.
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:44 am

Having shopped around and bought a kayak specific jacket I noticed that the all the jackets I looked at were at the lower end of the buoyancy scale (a minimum of 50 newtons) whereas the minimum for inshore jackets is 72 and inflatables are at 150.

Being pretty keen on coming in back in one piece while out in some pretty isolated spots I wonder if there are any kayak specific options with greater levels of buoyancy or if 50 newtons is sufficient for our sport??? Cant remeber the brand I settled on but with the lack of options around level of buoyancy my decision was made on ability to store my marine VHF, cell phone, comfort etc

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Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:21 am

I use the Hydraulics Leader which has 60N.
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:47 pm

White water Jackets are 70n... there also reasonably bulky. higher buoyancy equates to more bulk regardless, Inflatables get away with for obvious reasons. A good White water jacket is 400+
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:04 pm

I have the NRS Chinook. I really can't compare it to other PFD's because the previous ones I use to wear were bought from garage sales.

Lots of pockets for storage and convenient latches to hook your VHF, braid scissors etc. Also comes in a cool dark green colour.

My only gripe is the strapping above the shoulders is starting to fray at the edges - perhaps it's just normal wear and tear. But other than that it's choice!
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Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:37 pm

Ran a Chinook for about a year before the UV started to have its wicked way with the nylon.
Then again I do spend a lot more time on the water than your average bear.
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Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:51 am

Hairy Little Dwarf wrote:Ran a Chinook for about a year before the UV started to have its wicked way with the nylon.
Then again I do spend a lot more time on the water than your average bear.
What year was the jacket HLD? The nylon on the chinooks was known to fade badly but has supposedly improved a lot in the past couple years.

I got a NRS Cvest 18 months ago largely due to the advice on this forum and love it only difference to the chinook is the pocket configuration. Cvest has a purpose built pocket for vhf which is handy. Chinook has bigger pockets.

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Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:55 am

The NRS I had frayed very badly around the inside of the pockets and like HLD fading is awful, mine went from bright orange to nothing in a year...
Limitless did say they have improved that, but haven't seen an update as to how its going ?

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Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:22 am

Used NRS Chinook and Osprey, both would have been around 2009 vintage, both faded really rapidly but the Chinook also started to breakdown.
The Osprey pockets quickly became unusable due to the material fraying and jamming the zips, even with regular trimming and sealing of edges.
Good low use/beginner PFDs though.

Paid the extra and got a Cordura jacket which hasn't missed a beat in over 3x the use of the others, bit of wear to the piping where it rubs against the seat but that's it.

Cordura every time for me now.
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Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:20 pm

I have a Chinook. It's great but my only criticism is that I would prefer if it had just one VHF sized pocket.
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Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:43 pm

I've got an Osprey and wouldn't recommend it at all. Fraying badly around the pockets which have started to catch and there are no straps around the waist to prevent it from riding up when in the drink.

Got me started but in hindsight wish I'd spent more money and gone for something better fitting.

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Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:13 pm

Got a YAK Xipe a couple if years ago after my NRS jacket started to fall apart .

The Xipe is still going strong with no signs of failure !

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Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:59 pm

Thanks everyone for the input. Will head into town to try some on so the next question is whats around in Christchurch for shopping options?

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