Keel Protection?

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Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:16 pm

The keel on my Southern Skua gets a hard time here on the West Coast and I have been looking at options to protect it rather than continually repairing the Gelcoat. I have come across a product called 'Keeleazy' on the net and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with it? I can't seem to find a supplier in NZ?

http://www.keeleazy.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I know that some people just use heavy duty tape but this looks like it could be a good 'fit for purpose' product? Any thoughts?

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Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:32 pm

Looks like a variation of "Helicopter Tape".

Speaking of which: Gurgle "ISC Helicopter Tape", see if that suits what you're looking for...
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Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:25 pm

Looks good -check with Wade or Max at Quality Kayaks they're pretty helpful I've found :y:

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Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:35 am

Something I noticed - that product doesn't show any wrinkles where it's applied around curves.
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:39 pm

Cheers guys, a few options there. I have got a price from a supplier in Australia and just waiting to hear back from Q Kayaks.

All the videos I saw showed them using a heat gun to apply the tape which seemed to prevent any wrinkles and looked good. The only issues seem to be when people have only done certain areas and over time the leading edge has started to come away, hence I intend to do the whole length of the hull.
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Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:31 pm

Could be worth comparing the Australia price with these guys at http://Www.chillcheater.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; same product, compony based in uk but also ship to NZ. With a £25 shipping charge though it will probably cost more.


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Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:33 pm

For protection we run a ~30 mm wide strip of carborundum epoxy along the keel or at least a metre from the stern forward. Also some at the bow, about the same length. It is a 2:1 ratio mix epoxy and is like toffee. Mask off the area and cover the rest of the kayak with plastic. Blob it on and then meld it by lightly rubbing back and forth with a very wet (glove covered) finger, shaping the epoxy along the keel. I have an 2 litre ice cream container of water beside me as I work it. Use plenty of water.

When we hit rocks we leave grooves in them.

We use Norski's (http://www.norski.co.nz" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) though I can't see it in their brochure. Abel Tasman Kayaks used to coat their rental's keels with it.

An alternative is to use standard epoxy and fill it with carborundum powered.

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Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:15 am

Mac50L wrote:For protection we run a ~30 mm wide strip of carborundum epoxy along the keel or at least a metre from the stern forward. Also some at the bow, about the same length. It is a 2:1 ratio mix epoxy and is like toffee. Mask off the area and cover the rest of the kayak with plastic. Blob it on and then meld it by lightly rubbing back and forth with a very wet (glove covered) finger, shaping the epoxy along the keel. I have an 2 litre ice cream container of water beside me as I work it. Use plenty of water.

When we hit rocks we leave grooves in them.

We use Norski's (http://www.norski.co.nz" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) though I can't see it in their brochure. Abel Tasman Kayaks used to coat their rental's keels with it.

An alternative is to use standard epoxy and fill it with carborundum powered.
Yeah I have emailed Norski for some info/prices :y:
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Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:38 am

yakman wrote:Yeah I have emailed Norski for some info/prices :y:
Remember my comment, cover everything as the white dribbles of water make a mess over the rest of the kayak. Probably check where you are going to do it too and not make a mess all over the garage floor.

Note also it will wear down over a year or so of scraping over rocks and Banks Peninsula is mainly gravel or rocky beaches.

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Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:59 am

Carborundum is used on boats too. Jet boaters use it and so do (some) people who beach fibreglass boats in the sounds.

Not pretty, but works well.
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Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:09 am

Paddling perfection has a carbon material that is mixed with gelcoat and brushed on to a taped area after light standing. I have applied this on to my Mirage . Cheap and last long before needing to reapply.

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Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:17 am

There you go :y:

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Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:04 am

yakman wrote:The keel on my Southern Skua gets a hard time here on the West Coast and I have been looking at options to protect it rather than continually repairing the Gelcoat. I have come across a product called 'Keeleazy' on the net and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with it? I can't seem to find a supplier in NZ?

http://www.keeleazy.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I know that some people just use heavy duty tape but this looks like it could be a good 'fit for purpose' product? Any thoughts?

Cheers,

Yakman :y:

Dude I gave up the keel toughening on the exterior and went to extra composite layup inside the keel on wear areas (also strengthening ) then prevention as in pick up the kayak in the shallows (don't drag it nowhere- nohow :!: )

This is aided by my immense strength :lol: and the already light carbon/ kevlar hull I use with extraneous weight (usually huge catches :) ) in easily removed catch bag.
But most importantly a couple of fenders on board , even a couple of high density pool noodles in the cockpit in easy reach as you hop out under the hull and shes all honky dory :clap: :clap:
That and some synthetic Horse feed type bags for laying on grinding surfaces like uneven rock and sand and-
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