Braid snapping

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Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:11 pm

So yesterday on the water I lost a fish as the line snapped.as soon as it started running. Then after tying a jighead directly to the braid as I had no leader with me, I wrapped the line around my fingers to test the knot as usual and the line snapped just before the knot, not the knot itself. Live, Die, Repeat and the same thing happened. Then I thought it might be sun exposure, so I let out a fair bit of line, but whatever I did, the line kept snapping from what I thought was not much force.
Not sure, but I think I put 12lb braid on that reel last.

About to buy new line and find myself wanting to buy 15lbs, but I know my catch rate is better on lighter line. So a few questions:
Should you be able to break 12lb braid with you hands?
I know there's a difference in catch rate (for me at least) between 30lbs and 12lbs, but would there be any noticeable difference between 15lb and 12lb?
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Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:30 pm

Standards vary with stated breaking strains. Better to use line thickness as a guide to what you end up with. You may find a thinner braid with a higher " breaking point" or even a thicker braid with less.
You might have a damaged guide on the rod you are using that is causing failure of your line or your bail roller is seized producing friction that has weakened it?

Just guessing though, how old is the line and was it a decent product to start with?
Some no name brands seem to cheap to be real.
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Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:35 pm

Sounds like cheap or damaged braid. I regularly land legal kingfish and big snapper on 10lb braid in open water. I use Powerpro Superslick 8 or Suffix 832.
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Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:57 am

Thanks gents,
AndrewRawlingson wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:35 pm
I regularly land legal kingfish and big snapper on 10lb braid in open water.
That's what I wanted to hear, then this line was definitely damaged. I let off a LOT of line and it still broke easily deep into the spool, which is surprising.

I don't buy no-name brands for braid (I do for other stuff). Though I don't remember what this was, most of the time I'd buy Suffix 832 of PowerPro or some well-known name in the fishing world, like Diawa or Berkley or other types of Suffix. My guess is this would have been Berkley Exceed of Suffix 832, which are the last 2 I remember buying.
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Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:06 am

I've had some problems with Fireline. It's very thin (which made me buy it), but the knot strength just isn't there, not in my hands anyway.
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Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:37 am

I had issues with the Exceed Tournament braid. 12 lb was thinner than anything else I found, but it broke very easily and had weak knot strength ,and didn't cast off the spinning reel well at all. May have been better on a baitcaster but I took it off after the first session and replaced it.
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Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:21 pm

12lb Tasline is a good 8 carrier braid that is tested to break at 20lb and you can support NZ manufacturing at the same time

No dye or coatings on it either.
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Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:48 pm

As an experiment ... cut off the top colour and see if strength improves. I find the top colour accumulates UV damage which makes it softer and weaker.
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Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:47 am

Check the guides on your rod that there isn't a crack in one of them.

I 2nd the tasline elite line recommendation. I have it on my softbait set and it's great. Available from kaveman tackle.

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Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:26 pm

Was about to put new braid on and thought I better check the guides as you all suggested:
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Hate to say it...but.... that’s usually the cause 99.99999% of the time...ln fact, probably even more !
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Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:56 pm

lespresso wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:21 pm
12lb Tasline is a good 8 carrier braid that is tested to break at 20lb and you can support NZ manufacturing at the same time

No dye or coatings on it either.
So its actually 20lb ? why in hells name dont they just put what it is rather than BS it...

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