Rescue knife

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yak64
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Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:44 am

Hi all

I've been looking thru forums and online for a recommended kayak fishing rescue knife.... hard to work out if there are clear favourites or it really comes down to personal choice... would be interested in your thoughts. I would like a good quality easy to use knife that can attach to my PFD. I have found the following, comments and any other suggestions would be welcome too.

Gerber River shorty
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gerber-River-Sh ... 51beae4717

Gerber EZ Out Rescue Knife
http://www.paddlerzone.co.nz/index.php? ... cts_id=719

CRKT Bear Claw
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400698346780?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

Performance Diver Chisel Tip BC Knife
http://www.performancediver.co.nz/knive ... .php?sl=16

Gill Rescue Knife
http://www.burnsco.co.nz/ProductDetail? ... 0000000939


Cheers Bruce

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Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:32 am

MadMike has this very good rescue knife on special at the moment give him a PM retails for $140 but hes running a very good special on them :y:.....
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mikG
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Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:08 pm

What makes a good rescue knife? What would one use a rescue knife for? To help with cutting anchor ropes etc if you capsize?

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Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:22 pm

There are plenty of interesting good-quality products available, and choosing between them will often be as much about what you like the look of and what fits your hand. I do have two comments worth thinking about:

1. From a safety perspective - I question the value of folding rescue knives. If I need a rescue knife in a hurry then I'll want it on the front of my PFD and/or on my leg (I always have both), and I'll also want it ready to go the instant I have it clear of the sheath. I don't want to be trying to open a folder, especially if everything's in a tangle and I'm on my way over the side of the kayak.

2. From a performance perspective - if not using it as an operational knife (e.g. ikying fish, cutting bait, etc.) then my testing with braid and mono fishing lines, and with a wide variety of deck lines, a serrated and slightly hooked blade shape was the most efficient at rapidly cutting yourself or equipment free.
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Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:17 pm

If you buy a expensive knife, smear the blade with marine grease. My secondary knife has outlasted two primary. Rust never sleeps

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Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:11 pm

Thanks limitless and Ruff.

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Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:12 pm

Picked up a $50 titanium blade on Amazon, works great and has good retention. It does not corrode but seems to lose its edge after a few trips. Nothing a whet stone doesn't fix.

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Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:20 pm

Here is some to have a look at, I like the blunt tip CRKT bear claw, if your in a panic upside down tangled in leashes and lines and whatever else you are far less likely to put it threw yourself..well thats my reasoning.

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Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:23 am

Ooh I :inlove: CRKT blades! They are extremely sharp and hold their edge well... not sure about the corrosion resistance in salt. Let us know if you put it through the paces.

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Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:18 am

I've used the Bear Claw for many years in both fresh and salt water. The blade is an excellent compromise between being "stainless" enough to limit corrosion while holding it's edge extremely well - something I've found doesn't always happen. When returning from the salt I give mine a proper rinse and dry out of its sheath, and occasionally give it a coat with a long life corrosion inhibitor.

The small screws on the handle scales can be a bit more of a problem than the blade though, and will definitely rust if not properly looked after. If you could find stainless substitutes that may be a good option, but I hit mine with a zinc rich cold galve paint and had little problem with them after that.

I found this knife so good for instinctive "can't see" use that I haven't considered going to anything else when looking for a pure rescue knife.
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AndrewRawlingson
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:46 am

whatever you get, save it for rescues, not cutting bait or gutting fish, so you know it's sharp when you need it. just my thoughts.
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:34 pm

I used to have exact same thoughts until Limitless suggested use it all the time so u know exactly where and how to pop it out...


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Limitless
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:59 pm

I use my current knife to iky fish which can blunt the tip, but the cutting edge remains sharp.

This isn't a pun, but I make a "point" of sharpening it every time I run my filleting knives over the stone - no less frequently than every 2nd trip. This means I never have a blunt knife with me. My backup on my calf is also regularly maintained and checked for sharpness.

My philosophy is that by regularly using the knife I know where it is by reflex. This means I don't have to see it to be able to grab it, something that was hounded into me in my white water days rafting, canoeing, and kayaking.
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yak64
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Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:03 pm

Thanks everyone for your advice and useful tips re safety... hope i never need to use in reality but at least will have some gear to assist. have gone for the bear claw... cheers

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Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:42 am

One more suggestion, consider blunt tipped knife. Less chance of injury in the process of freeing yourself.
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yak64
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Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:20 pm

Thanks... got the blunt version! cheers

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Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:26 am

Another bear claw knife fan. the handle has a finger hole for extra grip in emergencies.
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Sun Aug 24, 2014 2:46 pm

My Bear Claw arrived the other day. Very impressive, and feels very safe in the hand unlike most full grip knives.
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RobEdward
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Thu Dec 25, 2014 4:12 pm

In my experience you can't beat one of these Eezycutters http://eezycut.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



I've had a couple on my dive setup for two years now and the blades are still insanely sharp, and the blades are very cheap to replace.

They attach really nicely to wrists or any gear you need them on, they're light and very quick to deploy and cut with one handed. They will effortlessly cut through anything you could get tangled in, but you can't cut yourself.

You can get them for about 35 NZD from Dive Gear Express or similar with spare blades costing around $5 for two (I've only used 1 set of spare blades in two years).

Group buy gets around shipping cost nicely.
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