Wadefish 15-32 ... watch this space

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Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:20 pm

Following in the footsteps of TwoSpoons and Glint, I am soon to embark on the obsession of a DIY stitch & glue kayak.
My weapon of choice is the Wadefish 15-32 desgin from JEM Watercraft (http://www.jemwatercraft.com/proddetail ... od=WF15-32" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;).

I've had plenty of fun making sawdust over the years but boat building, epoxy & fibreglass are all new to me; don't expect a flawless effort ... I reserve the right to backtrack, fix, modify or do-over as I see fit.

Watch this space for build progress and updates.
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:32 pm

Nice one and looking forward to watching the progress :y:
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:33 pm

Yer mate awesome, I enjoyed watching Glints build... so yer bring it on :y:

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Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:41 pm

Looking forward to it !!
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Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:34 pm

Sweet, I've been waiting for someone else to take up the DIY challenge.
Was very impressed with glints effort, look forward to the updates :y:
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:32 am

I keep thinking about doing this but I really don't have the patience. Good on ya for putting your hand up. I will be watching with interest. Good luck with the build.
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:27 am

All the best for the build. I would be really keen to read how you find this as a first build.
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:37 am

all the best mate..sure itl be a sweet ride in the end! :clap:
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Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:34 pm

Will be watching this one. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask - If I can answer I will, though I'm no expert on boat building.
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:57 am

kpofisha wrote:Following in the footsteps of TwoSpoons and Glint, I am soon to embark on the obsession of a DIY stitch & glue kayak.
My weapon of choice is the Wadefish 15-32 desgin from JEM Watercraft (http://www.jemwatercraft.com/proddetail ... od=WF15-32" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;).

I've had plenty of fun making sawdust over the years but boat building, epoxy & fibreglass are all new to me; don't expect a flawless effort ... I reserve the right to backtrack, fix, modify or do-over as I see fit.

Watch this space for build progress and updates.
Good on you mate. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
Lots of pictures please, there is certainly interest in diy,do not forget the problems you come across and how you solve them so we can all learn along the way.
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:23 am

glint wrote: West system and micro balloons will be your best friend. :y:
Or Nuplex resins and homemade wood flour, if you want a cheaper option. One tip: buy more resin than you think you will need - the bigger packs are MUCH cheaper. I started with a 5l pack and ran out and had to buy another 5l pack. Could have bought 15l for the same price :@ . You will find it incredibly useful to have spare resin later on, for modifications etc. Can be mixed with silica to make a thickened glue.

Oh, and avoid skin contact with the glue at all costs - it wont do anything to you at first, but repeated exposure can make you allergic. I used a big box of disposable gloves. If you do get it on you (almost inevitable) don't use epoxy solvent, use white vinegar as a cleaner (works for tools too).
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Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:02 am

Thanks for the encouragment guys ... unfortunately I'm still waiting for the plans to arrive |( but I chomping at the bit to get started.
I have even been clearing the wife's to-do list to remove any excuses she may come up with :lol:

Given the estimated 65,324.7 hours of labour that this project will consume, I have decided to use the best quality stuff I can (correct me if I'm wrong; I think West Systems epoxy falls into this category), at the end of the day, a little extra money on good products will be more than covered by the labour costs
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Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:16 am

kpofisha wrote:Thanks for the encouragment guys ... unfortunately I'm still waiting for the plans to arrive |( but I chomping at the bit to get started.
I have even been clearing the wife's to-do list to remove any excuses she may come up with :lol:

Given the estimated 65,324.7 hours of labour that this project will consume, I have decided to use the best quality stuff I can (correct me if I'm wrong; I think West Systems epoxy falls into this category), at the end of the day, a little extra money on good products will be more than covered by the labour costs
The west system is a bit more costly but it is tried and proven , well documented and reliable. It is easy to work with ,start saving ice-cream containers now to use as mixing bowls.Do not mix more than you can use in the time they say as it is exo -thermic and goes off quite quickly.Getting some tongue depressing sticks from the chemist and shaping them to the fillet radius you want to use is a big time saver and gives a nice neat uniform look to your work.Just watch out when you open the micro ballon filler as it has a tendency to go every where given the slightest chance.As already said a box of cheap throw away gloves is also a good investment.Good luck with the build. Twospoons hint for cleaning up sounds like a good one.Access to a router will also make finishing work a lot quicker and easier.
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Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:11 am

I second mixing small quantities. You only want to be working with 50 to 100mls of mixed epoxy at a time. I used disposable plastic drink cups for mixing, and plastic knives as stirrers. Everything disposable! No cleaning up! :lol:
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:14 pm

Do you have a good source for your ply locally?
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:30 pm

Good luck with the build...will be keeping an eye on the progress :y:...

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Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:03 pm

glint wrote:Do you have a good source for your ply locally?
Have been strugling a bit with this one; no-one seems to stock marine ply these days (aside from specialist stockists in the Auckland area). I have resorted to ordering it through the local placemakers which has worked out about the same as buying it from auckland and getting it delivered.
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Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:27 pm

kpofisha wrote:
glint wrote:Do you have a good source for your ply locally?
Have been strugling a bit with this one; no-one seems to stock marine ply these days (aside from specialist stockists in the Auckland area). I have resorted to ordering it through the local placemakers which has worked out about the same as buying it from auckland and getting it delivered.
Have you tried your local boat builder, most of them stock it for their own use and if you told them what you are doing they will most likely help you out with the ply and maybe even the epoxy and glass. they will most likely put a markup on it put will still work out cheaper,and if you get a nice one you might even be able to tack it on to there order at their rate

With west system and most other epoxy systems they do a pump system and this is a must in my eyes for small mixes, for bigger mixes that you will most likely not do use scales and weigh it. Epoxy must be to the specs stated one or two percent each way and it will not fully cure. and keep it warm over 15 deg 30 is best :y:

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Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:05 pm

When you get your ply it check it very carefully. It should comply with BS1088 (british standard): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BS_1088 Some of the Chinese "BS1088" stuff is a bit dubious. I had one sheet that was badly warped, and had surface filler - definitely not up to standard.

Epoxy pumps are convenient, but not always accurate - weighing is better. Having said that, I had no cure issues with the Nuplex R180 resin and I used pumps. My pumps were a little rich on the hardener - ran out of hardener before resin - but it still worked ok. Some resins are more tolerant of off-ratio mixes than others.
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Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:36 pm

Sounds like a good excuse for a fishing trip to Auckland :y:Googled Kaponga, which of the 100 houses is yours :rofl:
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