NN - 19/05 Pre-winter fish.

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DocProfit
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Snuck out for a quick one before winter.

Looks like the gurnard are starting to come in already.

Orange slider was all business, soft-baiting was slow.


Was really quiet on the water, hardly a kayak or boatie out there.
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Very nice haul and a welcome gurnard.

Gutted I couldn't make it, hopefully I'll be able to get out next time. Glorious day out there.
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It was indeed as you said sir, Orange slider all the way. Managed to nab a few myself. So pleasant without the usual fleet of boats.
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Luke 1 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 6:53 am It was indeed as you said sir, Orange slider all the way. Managed to nab a few myself. So pleasant without the usual fleet of boats.
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Tried a few times with the orange slider with no success. How do you fish them, very slow wind or just drop down and leave untill something finds it?
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Badfisherman wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 8:16 am
Luke 1 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 6:53 am It was indeed as you said sir, Orange slider all the way. Managed to nab a few myself. So pleasant without the usual fleet of boats.
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Tried a few times with the orange slider with no success. How do you fish them, very slow wind or just drop down and leave untill something finds it?
I believe the technique offered by Ocean Angler is as you say, drop to the bottom (or where the fish are holding), slowly wind waiting for the bite. Don't be tempted to strike if you have enquiries, just continue to wind slowly and you should hook up. As always, use the lightest weight required for you to reach the bottom (while keeping your line angle vertical). Feel free to vary your retrieve rate to see what the fish are into.
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DeltaDivingNZ wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 12:57 pm
Badfisherman wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 8:16 am
Luke 1 wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 6:53 am It was indeed as you said sir, Orange slider all the way. Managed to nab a few myself. So pleasant without the usual fleet of boats.
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Tried a few times with the orange slider with no success. How do you fish them, very slow wind or just drop down and leave untill something finds it?
I believe the technique offered by Ocean Angler is as you say, drop to the bottom (or where the fish are holding), slowly wind waiting for the bite. Don't be tempted to strike if you have enquiries, just continue to wind slowly and you should hook up. As always, use the lightest weight required for you to reach the bottom (while keeping your line angle vertical). Feel free to vary your retrieve rate to see what the fish are into.
Yeah, tried that a few times and never had a single bite! Obviously doing something wrong! Will persevere!
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Badfisherman wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 1:43 pm
DeltaDivingNZ wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 12:57 pm
Badfisherman wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 8:16 am

Tried a few times with the orange slider with no success. How do you fish them, very slow wind or just drop down and leave untill something finds it?
I believe the technique offered by Ocean Angler is as you say, drop to the bottom (or where the fish are holding), slowly wind waiting for the bite. Don't be tempted to strike if you have enquiries, just continue to wind slowly and you should hook up. As always, use the lightest weight required for you to reach the bottom (while keeping your line angle vertical). Feel free to vary your retrieve rate to see what the fish are into.
Yeah, tried that a few times and never had a single bite! Obviously doing something wrong! Will persevere!
I'm assuming you are using the correct gear? I was initially put off by lure fishing, as I had zero success on every occasion that I tried. After convincing myself to purchase equipment that was fit for purpose, I have never been let down when fishing sliders. My go to however, is the bruised banana
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DeltaDivingNZ wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 2:42 pm
Badfisherman wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 1:43 pm
DeltaDivingNZ wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 12:57 pm

I believe the technique offered by Ocean Angler is as you say, drop to the bottom (or where the fish are holding), slowly wind waiting for the bite. Don't be tempted to strike if you have enquiries, just continue to wind slowly and you should hook up. As always, use the lightest weight required for you to reach the bottom (while keeping your line angle vertical). Feel free to vary your retrieve rate to see what the fish are into.
Yeah, tried that a few times and never had a single bite! Obviously doing something wrong! Will persevere!
I'm assuming you are using the correct gear? I was initially put off by lure fishing, as I had zero success on every occasion that I tried. After convincing myself to purchase equipment that was fit for purpose, I have never been let down when fishing sliders. My go to however, is the bruised banana
Yeah, only lure fish and have a shimano kaos slow jig rod. Caught plenty on other lures just sliders. I need to fish with them for longer as probably give up way to easily! Out tomorrow so will stick with it!
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Badfisherman wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 8:16 am Tried a few times with the orange slider with no success. How do you fish them, very slow wind or just drop down and leave untill something finds it?
soft tip bendy rod helps
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Agree on the bendy tip. I use an OA Bender rod.

https://www.marine-deals.co.nz/ocean-an ... n-140g-1pc

When it comes to sliders I do nothing, literally nothing.

I let the slider hit the bottom, wind it up a little, stick it in the rod holder and don't touch it. Not even if it's getting big hits. They either catch themselves or they don't.


Small strips (SMALL) of squid on the hooks will triple your bites... at least.


I like fishing a slider hands free in the rod holder because then I can focus fully on soft-baiting out the the other side of the yak, which is the type of fishing I find fun.

Slow-jigging is hellishly boring to me - but very successful.
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If you're stink bait adverse, something Gulp! On the hooks will increase bite rate on tough days. The Gulp! Sand worms are perfect for this, but hard to track down in NZ.
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Thanks all. Went off narrow neck yesterday morning earlyish and caught first fish on a slider (well red coin drop) exactly as doc profit suggested. I chucked it in the rod holder while I was micro jigging. Lost a better one as well doing the same. Think this is the way forward for me, leave the slider in the rod holder and actively fish others. Keeps you moving in winter!
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Think rod tip is a litte stiff as rods rated from 40 to 160 grams but so be it. Spent a bit recently so that's on list for future purchase!
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I have been buying the frozen calamari tubes from the supermarket. Defrost then cut into long thin strips, hook once, chuck in the holder and wait till you hook up.
Got 5 in a couple of hours on Friday, unbaited slider got very little attention but it was all go with the baited one. Must make a difference in winter.
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Luke 1 wrote:
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I have been buying the frozen calamari tubes from the supermarket. Defrost then cut into long thin strips, hook once, chuck in the holder and wait till you hook up.
Got 5 in a couple of hours on Friday, unbaited slider got very little attention but it was all go with the baited one. Must make a difference in winter.
I'll try that, thanks. Anything that helps bring home a feed!

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Luke 1 wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 10:01 am I have been buying the frozen calamari tubes from the supermarket. Defrost then cut into long thin strips, hook once, chuck in the holder and wait till you hook up.
Got 5 in a couple of hours on Friday, unbaited slider got very little attention but it was all go with the baited one. Must make a difference in winter.
met a kayak fisher, he used the zman secret sauce on his slider, the buggar cleaned up next to me.... I didn't get a look in when compared
altho he did say, it stuffs up the skirt quickly
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Yep
I guess it's a winter thing snapper not as attracted to the slider.
Went out in the weekend 5 hrs on water with slider equaled 1 sanpper.
Very Slow not much showing on sounder a few bait blobs with the odd arch once in a while, I might just try the squid ring thing & see how it goes!
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Got a few yesterday in slightly sporty conditions. Pulled the pin before it got too choppy.
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Should of gone today it's perfect.
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Nice catch, looks a bit lumpy. I was planning on monday but just seen 29kts so that's me staying at home!

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