What's the maximum size livie?

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Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:09 pm

Hey experts,

owaldock got me thinking in my recent Trip Report

I'm having some trouble catching livies in Sandy Bay, however, I do tend to hook up to a kahawai fairly easily while trolling around there. Up to now I've thought that those kahawai I catch while trolling will probably be too big to use as livies. I don't care about catching the biggest kingfish just yet, just want a legal size, so thought too big a kahawai would be a mistake.

I know I've seen photos of snapper hitting lures not much smaller than the snapper itself, so am I being silly worrying about the size of the livie? Up to what length kahawai should I be using for live bait without affecting my chances of catching a kingie much?
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Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:15 pm

you'd be surprised at how small a king will take a big live bait.
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Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:05 pm

Like MM said be surprised what a small king will take down got this one on a 2kg kahawai a couple years back
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Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:46 pm

The general rule is that a king fish will eat a fish up to a third of its own length...
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Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:08 pm

Kerry wrote:The general rule is that a king fish will eat a fish up to a third of its own length...
I have had a large(ish) Kahawai scoff another smaller variant over half it's length. Tail was just about poking out the mouth.

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Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:24 pm

GHOST RIDER wrote:Like MM said be surprised what a small king will take down got this one on a 2kg kahawai a couple years back
That is a hell of a fish. How do yo dispatch something that size on the jak.?

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Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:57 pm

owaldock wrote:
GHOST RIDER wrote:Like MM said be surprised what a small king will take down got this one on a 2kg kahawai a couple years back
That is a hell of a fish. How do yo dispatch something that size on the jak.?
They fit on the back no problem but this is one reason I have gone back to a cover don't want to sound like I've got a big head but a lot of the fish we catch in Northland don't fit in a bag or chill pod :D
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GHOST RIDER wrote:
owaldock wrote:
GHOST RIDER wrote:Like MM said be surprised what a small king will take down got this one on a 2kg kahawai a couple years back
That is a hell of a fish. How do yo dispatch something that size on the jak.?
They fit on the back no problem but this is one reason I have gone back to a cover don't want to sound like I've got a big head but a lot of the fish we catch in Northland don't fit in a bag or chill pod :D
All good but I meant how did you kill it? Iki or knock it on the head.?

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Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:16 pm

owaldock wrote: All good but I meant how did you kill it? Iki or knock it on the head.?
Oh sorry lki :y:
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owaldock wrote: All good but I meant how did you kill it? Iki or knock it on the head.?
Oh sorry lki :y:
I prefer to grab the gills and pull..... Good way of bleeding the fish out too but as I'm sure you can imagine a good fight with a Kingfish is bound to entice predators of a larger and toothier type so obviously some tact and awareness needs to come into the equation.
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Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:40 pm

Use the average size kahawai as a minimum.

Small ones will get hit by too many kahawai.

Or, try and catch some jack mackerel. They are kingfish candy in my opinion.

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Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:02 am

Normally its the Jac's that get mauled by the kahawai... decent blue and slimy Mac's work a treat though.
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