Backwards Landings

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Sradich
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Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:00 pm

I was talking with a guy the other week that commented if the surf was really rough he would paddle through the waves backwards so that he is always facing the waves an can paddle into them. Does this work? Then once you see a manageable size one swing around and ride it in
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Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:21 pm

Speaking from personal experience dont do it!!!. I was told the same and tried it once....... Still suffering 4 years, one month, and 2 days later ;)

In my opinion, 2 options, dig in and ride that sucker or hop off and ride it like a flutter board.

Taking a wave head on is easier......if you have forward momentum.
Without the forward momentum you are liable to go vertical then topple like a tree :wasntme:
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Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:25 pm

Yip I saw ya Waikatoyakka and it took about 15 min to try and retrieve what we could out of the surf. I wouldn't try it having seen what he went through. ......
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Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:35 am

Hi Steve,

the only successful "backwards landings" I've seen executed were always in waves/conditions that would have been far more easily handled facing towards the beach. The amount of energy the paddlers using this technique expended controlling their kayaks was massive in comparison, especially when they attempted a turn between two sets of wash to complete the run to the beach. In larger conditions where supposedly facing the waves is better, the risk of significant damage and/or injury is IMHO considerably greater - the only plastic kayak I've ever broken was damaged in just this kind of situation.

Remembering that as anglers returning from a fish we're attempting to transition without surfing if possible (as opposed to having fun amongst the waves surfing in our de-rigged yak), it's far faster to return facing forwards. This greatly simplifies being able to pick and use the smallest waves of a set to complete the return to the beach. The "backwards landings" attempts I've watched all took too long and meant the paddlers always missed the optimal small-wave window.

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Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:17 am

I haven't gotten caught in particularly large waves in NZ yet and when I did find some waves in Papa Aroha a few weeks ago, I didn't notice any particular pattern. However, many years ago as a teenager on a surfski in South Africa, we used to stay out just behind the breakers until you could see a pattern. 3-4 large waves, then 2-3 smaller ones, then large again. I know there's a theory of 7 waves in a set, but we found that you'd have to be patient and count them at that moment and at that specific stretch of beach.

So if I do get caught in some larger waves, I'd take my time and see if I can notice a pattern.
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Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:02 pm

Thanks guys that's what I thought. Definitely wasn't keen to give it a go before asking first, sometimes the waves are so powerful they can bif us out even when launching. Best to just be patient and wait for the big 3 to pass
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Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:41 pm

I used to fish with an old guy who used this method with success but it was slow and I got in way before him while he mucked around. My advice is to let the set waves go and then when you see a lull paddle in on the back of a smaller one. Works 90 % of the time.

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Sat May 02, 2015 9:36 pm

WaikatoYakka wrote:
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This!
Definitely forwards.

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Wed May 06, 2015 8:58 pm

I've gotten into the habit of watching/listening for the sets coming up behind me and backpaddle to prevent surfing, wait until the last 2 (normally the 2 biggest) to run past, and tuck in behind the last one. You work hard, but you can generally count on the next 2-3 waves being the smallest of the next set and it won't broach you as you come in. One thing that I have noticed...and hard to get used to because it is so counter-intuitive... is if you do find yourself being turned then rotate your hips to the inside of the turn, which will tilt the hull towards the turn direction. This will cause the yak to straighten up and get the nose pointed back in the right direction. It's one of those odd things that doesn't seem to make sense...like leaning outwards when riding 3 wheeler motorbikes.

As for coming in backwards...that just ends up being pure entertainment for the spectators on the beach. You can almost ear the collective "WTF!!" followed closely by raucous laughter. Luckily I had gone out clean skin to deliberately play in the tide, and didn't have any gear to break/lose.

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