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Worsley
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Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:50 pm

For some reason I am suddenly caught on the idea of getting a sail for my pf400 so I can head out a bit further.

Am I insane? Has anyone else got one or is thinking of getting one?

I'm keen on people's thoughts.

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Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:54 pm

Do a search on here...there's been quite a few guys you have set them up
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Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:09 pm

Work on using it to help you get home rather than further afield.
If it helps you get out wide, then you've got a hell paddle back into a headwind!

Paddle out wide into the wind, then have an easy (or at least assisted) run back :y:
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Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:13 pm

Hairy Little Dwarf wrote:Paddle out wide into the wind, then have an easy (or at least assisted) run back :y:
Unless (as Murphy's law would have it) you paddle out wide into a head wind, fish for a while and then the wind turns |(
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Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:15 pm

yeah, my normal pattern is to paddle out against the wind, then paddle back against it :@

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Ruff as Gutts
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Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:26 pm

http://www.kayakfishingnz.com/forum/vie ... 26&t=18424" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Try asking one of these naki boys, all four have sails :rock:

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Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:49 pm

Ruff as Gutts wrote:http://www.kayakfishingnz.com/forum/vie ... 26&t=18424
Try asking one of these naki boys, all four have sails :rock:

Yes we use our sails to go out wide after tuna in wind up to 15kts. It gets a bit hairy above that. The good thing about the sail is that it makes paddling a lot easier on an average day of 30-35KM. The masts on the Pacific Action sail might be a bit too long for the Profish 400 However you can make your own to fit or cut down the commercial sail. Worth having for sure.

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matheolo
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Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:37 am

rainbow wrote:
Yes we use our sails to go out wide after tuna in wind up to 15kts. It gets a bit hairy above that. The good thing about the sail is that it makes paddling a lot easier on an average day of 30-35KM. The masts on the Pacific Action sail might be a bit too long for the Profish 400 However you can make your own to fit or cut down the commercial sail. Worth having for sure.

Rainbow
could you tell me your model of ocean in the video ? ( 4.3... or 4.7 ) and what model of PA sail did you installed?

I'd like to fit my prowler ELite 4.5 with a 1,5 sqm V sail pacific action. what do you think ?

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Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:01 am

matheolo wrote: I'd like to fit my prowler ELite 4.5 with a 1,5 sqm V sail pacific action. what do you think ?

thanks
The 1.5 is a long mast when it's on the deck. I run a 1.0 and that works very well in terms of output and deck space taken up.
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Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:23 am

matheolo wrote:
rainbow wrote:
Yes we use our sails to go out wide after tuna in wind up to 15kts. It gets a bit hairy above that. The good thing about the sail is that it makes paddling a lot easier on an average day of 30-35KM. The masts on the Pacific Action sail might be a bit too long for the Profish 400 However you can make your own to fit or cut down the commercial sail. Worth having for sure.

Rainbow
could you tell me your model of ocean in the video ? ( 4.3... or 4.7 ) and what model of PA sail did you installed?

I'd like to fit my prowler ELite 4.5 with a 1,5 sqm V sail pacific action. what do you think ?

thanks[/quote
Mine is the white DIY 1.5m2 one on a 4.3 which is the same size as the commercial model. It works fine on the 4.3 and should work on the 4.5 providing you put the masts fixing points forward enough. The 1m2 one would also work and give you a bit more room but it will not get you the same speed. However, on the good side it will be safer to handle when the wind picks up. Just remember the 4.5 only has a beam of 0.71 and is a bit leaner than the 4.7 or 4.3. Would definitely be safer for a novice sailor.

Like with all yakking you got to pick your days

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secala
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Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:54 am

And you need a rudder! I think the 1.5sq mt sail is the best option for these OK kayaks. As Rainbow says, you need to get to know your limitations whatever you get. There's a narrow margin between comfort and catastrophe when up to speed.
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Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:19 pm

got plenty of speed on my last trip , (only used it for sailing home )
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Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:44 pm

Just go nuts and get one of these...

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matheolo
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Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:54 pm

thank you guys for your advices.

my elite is ruddered
maybe I'll begin with a DIY sail, about 1.2 M2.

It is also difficult to get PA in Italy. The european importer is in Germany and at the time He has not availability.
as there are a lot of projects on line, it would be even cheaper ;)
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Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:50 pm

This is the Hobie Kayak sail that you can sail both upwind and downwind with a standard Mirage drive Hobie Kayak.
You need a centerboard which the mirage drive fins act as to sail upwind.
This is quite quick.
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