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Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:24 pm

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6.7 tones of wasted fish and that's only from one supermarket brand! Disgusting

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Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:37 pm

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Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:42 pm

I wonder if all of us together will catch 6 tones a year

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Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:44 pm

YakSolo_333 wrote:I wonder if all of us together will catch 6 tones a year

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hope so that's less than 3kg each :lol:

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Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:49 pm

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Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:54 pm

Shit winch the maths are scary

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:headbang: Bloody Progressive Enterprises :headbang:
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Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:58 am

0.2% wastage is pretty damn low IMO. I'd have a higher wastage % myself. That's 1 fish in every 500.


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Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:57 am

I think that's the final straw for me. I'm never shopping at Countdown again. Disgusting waste of fish. :n: :n: :n:
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Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:13 am

Think you will find it's the usual media over hype on the eve of a recreational quota change. although I find the waste wasteful |( it is a fact of life that not everything always sells. We get stuck with old or un moving stock all the time and I would imagine that the $ involved they are far more stringent on it. They will not be the only ones doing it. I don't understand why they don't sell it as fresh fish and then process it into fish cakes for the freezer after before the point of no return though.
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Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:40 am

That's a lot of $$ worth of fish. To make the maths easy lets say 30% fillet yield $30/kg fillet price ... $60,000 revenue down the drain.

There must have been a stuff up (e.g. contamination, refrigeration failure, record keeping failure) for that lot to be discarded. Food safety rules are very strict. It can happen that easily. No human error. Just a technical glitch can be all that is required.
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Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:11 am

just to play devils advocate and not being aligned with Progressive in any way shape or form.

I doubt any fish supplier would have 0 % of wastage and while i doubt that 0.2% is an accurate number (probably more like 10% at least) it would be all supermarkets and fish shops that would dump unsuitable product. I would also think its preferable to get it processed into a fish based product than sent to the tip though

not only fish... what happens to all the old veg... old meat... old deli items. pretty sure there is not 100% sold so there must be wastage for all of that. and while some of it goes to the pig farms there would be a lot that doesnt
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Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:34 am

kiwifred wrote:just to play devils advocate and not being aligned with Progressive in any way shape or form.

I doubt any fish supplier would have 0 % of wastage and while i doubt that 0.2% is an accurate number (probably more like 10% at least) it would be all supermarkets and fish shops that would dump unsuitable product. I would also think its preferable to get it processed into a fish based product than sent to the tip though

not only fish... what happens to all the old veg... old meat... old deli items. pretty sure there is not 100% sold so there must be wastage for all of that. and while some of it goes to the pig farms there would be a lot that doesnt
Didnt I read somewhere recently that 30% of the worlds food gets wasted / dumped....

But what grates me / us with this one is that we recreational fishers get "blamed" for the reducing snapper stocks and over fishing and then you go and read about this happening !!!
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Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:00 pm

As winch pointed out, the numbers add up.
What does 1 27cm snapper weigh? Multiply that by all of us on this forum, all the boaties and all the scores of land based fishos I see on every trip and I'm sure you'll find that each of us keeping. 1 undersized fish per month will soon add up to many tonnes.
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Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:59 pm

On one level, it's a waste of what could have been perfectly good food. On another level the fact the supermarket are prepared to discard tens of thousand worth of fish suggests they take food safety quite seriously.

Would the people doing the criticising, prefer progs had sold tonnes of fish they considered unfit for human consumption?
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Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:12 pm

I don't think we have all the facts yet but what we do know is.......

To get fish to consumers via supermarkets requires a number of days. The estimation of demand will sometimes be high and sometimes be low. I'm happy that all wastage is put to some use when it occurs. I would however question the validity of selling "fresh" fish in supermarkets. If the public needs to buy fish then go to a specialist fish monger or market where you at least will find fish a few days younger.

Bottom line is we still have a significant wastage in the commercial fish sector. Some wastage we can tackle and some is more difficult.
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Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:23 pm

Isn't that a bit like taking your limit knowing you only have use for 4 and having to bin the rest because it's to much trouble to do something useful with it...We wouldn't find that acceptable.

I heard Mike Hoskings yesterday saying that Fish & Games report on water quality of our rivers being affected adversely by intensive dairying being just a beat up by Fish & Game. He went on further to say that people should leave the dairy farmers alone because they are earning $$$ for NZ... So does that mean then so long as it's earning a $$$$ anything is acceptable. Bull dust ask those monitoring the Barrier Reef what affects intensive cropping is having on the that eco system, it's not good. The sooner those who want to make $$$$ realise it is a finite resource the better it will be for teh whole planet. Sure earning $$$ is important for everyone, but with out clean water and clean air there won't be anyone here to make it. Clean water is everything..
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Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:49 pm

The problem in this scenario though old fulla is that its very much a crystal ball type situation. they would hardly over buy at such a huge expense and loss to there own company on purpose. regardless of the waste there was quite obviously more to this story than it ended up in a reprocessing plant.
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Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:57 pm

But they will buy at a reduced price when there is excess supply to protect the price of the fish already in the store. This was done a lot in Europe and is done in otther industries. Just hedging.
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