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TwoSpoons
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Thu May 10, 2012 12:11 pm

Somehow that always happens. I know my build must have cost double what I told the wife before starting :lol:
Looking forward to seeing the covered frame!
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Thu May 10, 2012 12:21 pm

TwoSpoons wrote:Somehow that always happens. I know my build must have cost double what I told the wife before starting :lol:
Looking forward to seeing the covered frame!
I was amazed it was not the cost of the main materials that caused the blow out but the incidentals like glue,sealers.dope thinners etc for example it costs more to glue and treat the skin than the material itself cost. :^) It cost 1/3 the cost of the wood to treat it with a preserver. :^)
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Thu May 10, 2012 12:26 pm

Made me catch my breath when I bought a small pot of Epiglue for the GL paddle :o
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Sun May 13, 2012 4:37 pm

new paddle laminated ready for launching
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Mon May 14, 2012 10:57 am

For me it was all the fittings that blew the budget. Pretty much everything cost more that $5 a piece - just because it had to be marine SS. Even SS screws are expensive.
Polyurethane aint cheap either!
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Tue May 15, 2012 11:41 am

starting to get dressed
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Tue May 15, 2012 11:58 am

Whats that stuff Glint ?

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Tue May 15, 2012 12:21 pm

I'm getting a tad envious now :clap:
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Tue May 15, 2012 12:23 pm

awondering wrote:Whats that stuff Glint ?
It is product called Ceconite that is used in the aviation industry for covering aircraft.It basically comes in three weights and i am using the strongest one which has a breaking strength of 125 lbs / square inch.It costs about $17 per meter and is 70 inches wide.It is basically a heat shrink material which does not have a right or wrong side or bias which makes it easier to work with.There are some tricks to handling it but the company produce an excellent manual at a cost of $20 dollars which explains EVERYTHING in detail.
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Tue May 15, 2012 12:32 pm

Hairy Little Dwarf wrote:I'm getting a tad envious now :clap:
It is surprising how much difference a little bit of material makes !! :y: project might have to go on hold for a week or so at this point while i take her who has to be obeyed away for a holiday.There is a lot of trimming to be carefully done from this point prior to fastening the ceconite. It tends to fray when cut and blunts scissors and blades quite quickly.The glue is highly volatile so i am trying to scrounge a vapor mask before i go any further. When you come to the maiden voyage bring a double kayak rack and your cheque book :x :rofl: :devil:
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Tue May 15, 2012 12:38 pm

So is it a waterproof membrane ?

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Tue May 15, 2012 1:16 pm

awondering wrote:So is it a waterproof membrane ?
No not at this point.It gets shrunk to fit the shape of the hull to a skin tight fit. It the gets treated with airplane dope which binds all the fibers to provide the water proofness and then it can be painted to suit.What do you have in mind?
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Tue May 15, 2012 1:23 pm

glint wrote:
awondering wrote:So is it a waterproof membrane ?
No not at this point.It gets shrunk to fit the shape of the hull to a skin tight fit. It the gets treated with airplane dope which binds all the fibers to provide the water proofness and then it can be painted to suit.What do you have in mind?

Just enjoying following the job mate... :y:

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Tue May 15, 2012 1:54 pm

me to ,

cant wait for the lauching , champagne :^: :beer: :D :o:
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on its ability to climb a tree.
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Tue May 15, 2012 3:25 pm

Just draped over the topside to give some concept of the shape. I hope you are not all bored with this.
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Tue May 15, 2012 4:00 pm

Bored? Hell no, I check this thread every day to see if there are new photos yet!!
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Tue May 15, 2012 5:02 pm

Just an insight into the build so far.The Sea rider lines were the basis of the design and this is a very easy way to build a kayak.The most important part is setting up the strong back. Once this is done every thing is measured from this.The keel is the layed along the strong back and blocks put in place at the required points to provide the correct amount of rocker. Once this is done the frames are set up in both directions on the strong back i.e. vertical and square to the centre line of the strong back.Now that the frames are held in place you can safely start bending the gunwales around the frames. Cable ties proved great in holding everything in place at this stage as i have to work on my own.The gunwales are temporally tied together at the ends and you can start fitting the stringers working from the middle out.Because each and every frame is secured to the jig this is very easy to do and the frames cannot move out of alignment.I re-designed the middle of the kayak to give my rather large frame some room to move.The given plan was 100mm shallower than my final build.Now comes the fun part. The pointy ends. I chose to design my own bow and stern and built them to 20 degrees not un like the tahe greenlander.This part of the build takes a little time but requires more patience than skill. Nothing in the build is outside the abilities of anyone that can use a square and cut to a drawn line. There are some tricks that make it easier and i am happy to share them with any one wanting to have a go.I am willing to even help out with the drafting and steer you in the right direction for suppliers .If you are not to far away i could also give the odd hour or so of help. the strong back is available at cost.I have found the build so far very rewarding and look forward to the next stage when it all starts to look like a kayak.
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Tue May 15, 2012 5:11 pm

MikeAqua wrote:Bored? Hell no, I check this thread every day to see if there are new photos yet!!
:y:
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Tue May 15, 2012 7:19 pm

TwoSpoons wrote:
MikeAqua wrote:Bored? Hell no, I check this thread every day to see if there are new photos yet!!
:y:
x 2 :y:
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Tue May 15, 2012 8:41 pm

2057 views don't sound like bored to me.

Loving your work Glint.

Stupid question - whats SOF?

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