Cold Smoke Generator (smoking fish)

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Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:16 pm

This is very simple and awesome. I plan to make one and give it a go


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Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:39 pm

I saw one of these designs made up on Trademe for sale 2 weeks ago and it got me thinking about cold smoking.
I did some research and found that the style of smoker you are looking at building tends to suffer from fouling up and poor smoke control (normally too much). Some people did swear by them

I ended up getting one of these http://www.macsbbq.co.uk/CSG.html which I have found to be really good, easy to use, no problem to clean, no moving parts and no power requirement.
I cold smoked some bacon and cheese recently which turned out really well.

After I already had the ProQ I ended up on an american meat smoking forum (Those guys get pretty serious!) and they mostly using a product called The A-MAZE-ING Smoker. It is pretty similar to the ProQ but better build quality and able to be used for hot smoking too.

Whatever method you use cold smoking does get amazing results and I definitely like the DIY approach.

Let us know how you go!

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Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:52 pm

How did you get the A-MAZE-N Smoker to NZ?
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Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:59 pm

I didn't, didn't find out about it until I already had the ProQ.
That being said the ProQ is a really good product, the only comparisons I found were from americans who probably cared more that the A-MAZE-N was made in America.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:00 pm

Do you just use the normal smoking saw dust you buy from everywhere?
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Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:15 pm

I bought one of these about 12 months ago off trademe:


Need to get a portable butane torch to make lighting it easier - at the moment I can go through nearly a box of matches trying to get it lit.

Only just got around to getting a smoke box built for it - did a couple of runs just in large cardboard boxes to start with. Certainly takes fish smoking to a whole new level. Beautiful!!

Haven't had time to get onto other things yet but have some pork belly in the freezer for some bacon and plan on making some salamis/sausages as well
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Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:29 pm

sk8e8 wrote:Do you just use the normal smoking saw dust you buy from everywhere?
Nah that stuff is too coarse, I had to do a bit of searching to find a solution as there isn't a good source of fine sawdust in NZ.
This is what I found http://forum.sausagemaking.org/viewtopic.php?t=7516

In short smoke pellets (such as these http://www.mitre10mega.co.nz/shop/outdo ... ry_105964/) are made up of compressed fine saw dust that can either be broken down by soaking in water then drying out as per that first link or I just chuck them in the blender for a few minutes. Blender doesn't really like it much but its a magic bullet a past flatmate left behind.

There are more economical sources then mitre 10, it was just an easy link.

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Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:04 pm

Well I made the first version of my smoke generator.....It worked but I saw some parts that could be improved. So a quick pull apart and a wee bit of a modification it worked well..... But I didnt want to stop there. So a workmate and I started again from scratch with bigger and better material. And it produced a bloody heap of smoke :lol: :lol:. It still need the odd thing to make it good ....but so far Im very happy.
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These photos are the first version... It was raining to hard to get a pic of the second version working...Hopefully tomorrow I will get a pic of the new one

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Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:27 pm

This is a bit of a rough DIY but it shows the inside of the venturi set up
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Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:41 pm

Looking good you just need some fish now, you got a plan??


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Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:07 pm

Nice mate. Did the smoke feel cold? Also, what were you burning? Lastly, how much?? :)
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Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:10 pm

I could put my hand over the exhaust and the smoke was only just warm...I was burning manuka sawdust/chips....quite a coarse saw dust. How much? What?

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Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:27 pm

I'd love one if you're making a few. I have one of those charcoal smokers, and while they work great I've wanted to cold smoke too
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Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:24 am

Nice. Would love to see proper drawings when you are finished. Does the burn stay at the bottom or slowly move up the stack of saw dust? I get the impression the thing works like a venturi, drawing air in the side for the burn then pulling the smoke into the outlet pipe.
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Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:40 am

In the last pic you can see a deflector that makes the saw dust sit in one part of the burner. it gravity feeds the saw dust down onto the fire... the deflector stops the fire burning back up. And yes it is a venturi.... you got it bang on how it works

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Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:08 pm

Ok, that makes sense. Thanks.
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:27 pm

G1, how you getting on with the prototype? Dale
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:35 pm

Oh yes, and I have some KY getting ready to smoke so was thinking about this :D

Will have to do the old charcoal biz tonight, but put some results pics up!
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Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:49 pm

chip'n wrote:G1, how you getting on with the prototype? Dale
Its ticking along...I have made 2 different units and they have both worked. There have been a few issues that I have struck so Im back on the job tomorrow. Believe it or not they are paying me to get this to work as it will become a senior student metal technologies project at our school. So mk3 is going to start getting worked on tomorrow. I will keep you posted... I will take some pics of my progress as I go ....if I remember. Fingers crossed I get it sorted

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Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:58 pm

Any luck with a finished product yet, or even better photos of the latest results ie. smoked fish by way of the cold smoker. Dale
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