Rod Tip Friendly Tubing

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Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:58 pm

I'm looking for tubing to use to support the tips of my rods in my kayak trailer (box trailer).

Has anyone done something similar and found a suitable material?

The rods currently hang in clamp style rod racks mounted to on the 'ceiling' of the trailer box.

I want to replace the front racks (difficult to reach and clip the rods into) with short lengths of tubing I can simply slide my rod tips into.

Need up to 25mm internal diameter.
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Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:39 pm

most electrical and /or plumbing supplies will have off cuts of conduit. failing that chat up a sparky or plumber. if you were up here could grab a few metres off us that is just laying around

electrical conduit is OD and plumbing is ID if its that critical being 25mm
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Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:42 pm

What about Alkathene pipe, the softer poly being kinder to tip rings than harder conduit?
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Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:10 pm

mitre 10 and bunnings also do a clear plastic tube. sell it on a per meter basis and they have various sizes. also softer than conduit
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Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:00 pm

Dreadfish wrote:electrical conduit is OD and plumbing is ID if its that critical being 25mm
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Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:20 pm

its to do with the accurate flow rate of liquids through the pipe :D
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Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:54 pm

I'm wondering if even alkathene is soft enough?

I know those rod eyes with ceramic guides can be unforgiving.
Hairy Little Dwarf wrote:What about Alkathene pipe, the softer poly being kinder to tip rings than harder conduit?
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Mon Jun 13, 2016 6:29 pm

Which brings us back to good old Pool Noodle :lol:

How about short lengths of bike inner tube, or, and I'm surprisingly being serious, something like a very soft and baggy pillow that the tips just rest into allowing them to be restrained and supported?
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Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:46 am

if they are that fragile and valuable i would do something like screw down 2 lengths of half pool noodle and then bungy through the hole of a length of noodle in the craddle between the 2 halves, would keep the tips off the deck, stop them bouncing round and be easy to insert / remove.

edit: the other option being lengths of expandable sleeving.

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just fasten the tip end down, then you can insert most of the rod before cliping it in place. I think some fishing companies sell this stuff as massively overpriced rod protector sleeves as well.
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Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:11 am

That's food for thought ... pad on ceiling and an elastic band below that and rod tips slide between padding and elastic. There isn't much load at the tip end
Hairy Little Dwarf wrote:Which brings us back to good old Pool Noodle :lol:

How about short lengths of bike inner tube, or, and I'm surprisingly being serious, something like a very soft and baggy pillow that the tips just rest into allowing them to be restrained and supported?
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Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:22 am

Developing your idea a bit further I could ...

1) Split a short length of pool noodle lengthways.
2) Use rings of bungy to hold the two halves together.
3) Screw (countersink) one half to ceiling

Allows independent tensioning of each 'holder' to suit rod diameter.

Good old pool noddle :y:
novex wrote:if they are that fragile and valuable i would do something like screw down 2 lengths of half pool noodle and then bungy through the hole of a length of noodle in the craddle between the 2 halves, would keep the tips off the deck [ceiling], stop them bouncing round and be easy to insert / remove.
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a super pro paint job to show what i meant, invert for roof mount, potentialy run something stiffer through the whole pool noodle to avoid it sagging.
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Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:25 pm

The issue is the rod tips are in a location I can't easily reach so I need to be able to insert and retrieve rod tips with minimal effort

So whatever I use needs to be: -
- Rigid enough to maintain its shape while I slide the rods in/out
- Not be hard on the guides.
- Not be a shape the guides will catch on.

I found at Para some polyethylene foam tubing ~25mm hole through it.
Should be OK for the <10kg rods.

Not so great for larger rods. These will need more thought ...
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novex wrote:a super pro paint job to show what i meant, invert for roof mount, potentialy run something stiffer through the whole pool noodle to avoid it sagging.
Nice. I'll definitely make something like this. Driving with one hand on the steering wheel and the other hand positioning my rods to stop them rattling sucks. |(
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Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:44 am

How about a short length of pool noodle over the tips that slides into a piece of PVC pipe that is fixed to the box, I.e series of PVC pipes 50mm or 65mm screwed to box or a timber shelf with half circles cut out to stop them rolling, maybe slot the noodle so it can be opened up to slip the rod into, sorry can't draw a pic on phone,

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